A Schema Idea: By Arcade.

It was a joke about random factions you could put in to mothball the entire Schema you are working on.

 

Ah. Well, I haven't started "working" on it (mainly cause idk how lol).

This is just lore, and all that. By the way, suggestions are welcome and greatly appreciated.

 

Apologies for then double post, but what if we had a few CIA operatives (like Crow suggested), thoughts?

 

I think they could be similar to BMDs where they supply the Irish wanting to overthrow the SRI. It was very common in the CIA in the sixties to try and spark revolutions to overthrow the communists.

 

Me and Dovahneer have a general idea of where we're going with this - events, missions and battles wise.

The gamemode will be influenced on how well each side does ICly. Say the Irish take a county, they become more powerful gaining new gear and stuff from the Soviet Union.

Whereas as the British take a county, they get reinforcements and such.

Edit: Debating if I should have Sinn Feinn incharge or a made up party.

 

I really hope this becomes a real RP so I can plant bombs all over the country

 

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Rough timeline:
Actual History labebed with a blue *.
Alternate History is marked with a red (?).
-1916
Irish Republicans mount the Easter Rising (otherwise known as the Easter Rebellion) to end British rule in Ireland, and establish a Republic while the British were heavily involved in WW1. Organised by seven members of the Military Council of the Irish Republican Brotherhood, the Rising began on Easter Monday, 24 April 1916, and lasted for six days. Members of the Irish Volunteers — led by schoolmaster and Irish language activist Patrick Pearse, joined by the smaller Irish Citizen Army of James Conolly, along with 200 members of Cumann na mBan — seized key locations in Dublin and proclaimed the Irish Republic independent of the United Kingdom. There were actions in other parts of Ireland: however, except for the attack on the Royal Irish Constabulary barracks at Ashbourne, County Meath, they were minor. *

With vastly superior numbers and artillery, the British army quickly suppressed the Rising, and Pearse agreed to an unconditional surrender on Saturday 29 April. Most of the leaders were executed following courts-martial, but the Rising succeeded in bringing physical force republicanism back to the forefront of Irish politics. Support for republicanism continued to rise in Ireland in the context of the ongoing war in Europe and the Middle East and revolutions in other countries, and especially as a result of the Conscription Crisis of 1918 and the failure of the British-sponsored Irish Convention. *
-1919
In December 1918, republicans (by then represented by the Sinn Fein party) won 73 Irish seats out of 105 in the 1918 General Election to the British Parliament, on a policy of abstentionism and Irish independence. On 21 January 1919 they convened the First Dail and declared the independence of the Irish Republic, and later that same day the Irish War of Independence began with the Soloheadbeg Ambush. *
-1920-1922
The War of Independence ended with the Anglo-Irish Treaty, signed on 6 December 1921 and narrowly approved by Dáil Éireann on 7 January 1922. A Provisional Government was set up under the terms of the treaty, but the Irish Republic nominally remained in existence until 6 December 1922, when Ireland became a self-governing British Dominiom called the Irish Free State. The six counties of Northern Ireland exercised their right under the Treaty to opt out of the new dominion and rejoin the United Kingdom on 8 December 1922, leading to the Partition of Ireland, so that the Irish Free State consisted of only 26 of the island's 32 counties. *
-1937
The Free State came to an end in 1937, when the citizens voted by plebiscite to adopt a new consitution. Under the new constitution the Irish state was named Ireland. *
-1938
On the 21st of December, the newly formed Ireland becomes a Soviet Republic. The government of Ireland and the Soviet Union hold formal talks.(?)
-1939-1945
World War II begins on the 1st of September as Nazi Germany invades Poland. *
Ireland enters a state of Emergency, although a Neutral the Irish secretly help the British by sneaking crashed pilots over the border and the Army intelligence, G2, assisting in the capture of Hermann Gortz. The Irish Army also grows from around 10,000 to 40,000 before the end of the war. *
As the war goes on, the Irish buy more modern equipment from the UK, US and Soviet Union. (?)
In 1945, the Allied powers officially win the war. *
-1960
Civil Unrest sparks in Northern Ireland as Catholics lack basic Civil Rights such as voting, good education etc. *
In the mid-1960s, a non-violent civil rights campaign began in Northern Ireland. It comprised groups such as the Northern Ireland Civil Rights Association (NICRA), the Campaign for Social Justice (CSJ), the Derry Citizens' Action Committee (DCAC) and People's Democracy whose stated goals were:

• an end to job discrimination – it showed evidence that Catholics/nationalists were less likely to be given certain jobs, especially government jobs
• an end to discrimination in housing allocation – it showed evidence that unionist-controlled local councils allocated housing to Protestants ahead of Catholics/nationalists
• one man, one vote – in NI, only householders could vote in local elections, while in the rest of the UK all adults could vote
• an end to gerrymandering of electoral boundaries – this meant that nationalists had less voting power than unionists, even where nationalists were a majority
• reform of the police force (Royal Ulster Constabulary or RUC) – it was almost 100% Protestant and accused of sectarianism and police brutality
  
• repeal of the Special Powers Act – this allowed police to search without a warrant, arrest and imprison people without charge or trial, ban any assemblies or parades, and ban any publications; the Act was used almost exclusively against nationalists and republicans *

Unionists suspected the civil rights movement was an IRA front whose ultimate goal was to overthrow Northern Ireland. Although republicans and some IRA members helped to create and drive the movement, they did not control it and were not a dominant faction within it. *
In March and April 1966, Irish nationalists and republicans held parades throughout Ireland to mark the 50th anniversary of the Easter Rising. On 8 March, a group of Irish republicans dynamited Nelson's Pillar in Dublin. At the time, the IRA was weak and not engaged in armed action, but some unionists/loyalists warned it was about to be revived to launch another campaign against Northern Ireland. In April 1966, loyalists led by Ian Paisley, a Protestant fundamentalist preacher, founded the Ulster Constitution Defense Committee (UCDC). It set up a paramilitary-style wing called the Ulster Protestant Volunteers (UPV) in order to oust Terence O'Neill, Prime Minister of Northern Ireland.. Although O'Neill was a unionist, they viewed him as being too 'soft' on the civil rights movement and opposed his policies. *
At the same time, a loyalist group calling itself the "Ulster Volunteer Force" (UVF) emerged in the Shankill area of Belfast. It was led by Gusty Spence, a former British soldier. Many of its members were also members of the UCDC and UPV. In April and May it petrol bombed a number of Catholic homes, schools and businesses. A firebomb killed an elderly Protestant widow, Matilda Gould. On 21 May, the UVF issued a statement declaring "war" against the IRA and anyone helping it. On 27 May the UVF fatally shot a Catholic civilian, John Scullion, as he walked home. A month later it shot three Catholic civilians as they left a pub, killing a young Catholic from the Republic, Peter Ward. Shortly after, the UVF was proscribed (made illegal) by the NI Government. The Northern Ireland Civil Rights Association (NICRA) was formed in January 1967. *
On 24 August 1968, the civil rights movement held its first civil rights march, from Coalisland to Dungannon. Many more marches would be held over the following year. Loyalists (especially members of the UPV) attacked some of the marches and held counter-demonstrations in a bid to get the marches banned. Nationalists saw the RUC, almost wholly Protestant, as backing the loyalists and allowing the attacks to occur. On 5 October 1968, a civil rights march in Derry was banned by the NI Government. When civil rights activists defied the ban, RUC officers surrounded the marchers and beat them indiscriminately and without provocation. More than 100 people were injured, including a number of nationalist politicians. The incident was filmed by television news crews and shown around the world. It caused outrage among Catholics and nationalists, sparking two days of rioting in Derry between nationalists and the RUC.


A few days later, a student civil rights group – People's Democracy – was formed in Belfast. In late November, O'Neill promised the civil rights movement some concessions, but these were seen as too little by nationalists and too much by loyalists. On 1 January 1969, People's Democracy began a four-day march from Belfast to Derry, which was repeatedly harassed and attacked by loyalists. At Burntollet it was attacked by about 200 loyalists and off-duty police officers armed with iron bars, bricks and bottles in a pre-planned ambush. When the march reached Derry City it was again attacked. The marchers claimed that police did nothing to protect them and that some officers helped the attackers. That night, RUC officers went on a rampage in the Bogside area of Derry, attacking Catholic homes, attacking and threatening residents, and hurling sectarian abuse. Residents then sealed off the Bogside with barricades to keep the police out, creating "Free Derry", which was briefly a "no-go zone" for the security forces. In March and April 1969, loyalists bombed water and electricity installations in Northern Ireland, blaming them on the dormant IRA and elements of the civil rights movement. Some attacks left much of Belfast without power and water. Loyalists hoped the bombings would force O'Neill to resign and bring an end to any concessions to nationalists. There were six bombings between 30 March and 26 April. All were widely blamed on the IRA, and British soldiers were sent to guard installations. Unionist support for O'Neill waned, and on 28 April he resigned as Prime Minister.

1969
In the Socialist Republic of Ireland - after years of talks with the Soviet Union the Irish Government strikes up an alliance with them. As their relations warmth, the Soviets begin to send "aid" - first starting with more "modern" military equipment, then, as a Soviet base comes under construction just inside Donegal, the Soviets secretly send nuclear weapons by the early 70's.(?)

Seeing the mistreatment of it's "people", the Irish government warns the British to shape up. (?)

August 1969 riots and aftermath; On 19 April there were clashes between NICRA marchers, the RUC and loyalists in the Bogside. RUC officers entered the house of Samuel Devenny, an uninvolved Catholic civilian, and ferociously beat him along with two of his teenage daughters and a family friend. One of the daughters was beaten unconscious as she lay recovering from surgery. Devenny suffered a heart attack and died on 17 July from his injuries. On 13 July, RUC officers beat a Catholic civilian, Francis McCloskey (67), during clashes in Dungiven. He died of his injuries the next day. *

On 12 August, the loyalist Apprentice Boys were allowed to march along the edge of the Bogside. Taunts and missiles were exchanged between the loyalists and nationalist residents. After being bombarded with stones and petrol bombs from nationalists, the RUC, backed by loyalists, tried to storm the Bogside. The RUC used CS gas, armoured vehicles and water cannons, but were kept at bay by hundreds of nationalists. The continuous fighting, which became known as the Battle of the Bogside, would last for two days. *

In response to events in Derry, nationalists held protests at RUC bases in Belfast and elsewhere. Some of these led to clashes with the RUC and attacks on RUC bases. In Belfast, loyalists responded by invading nationalist districts, burning houses and businesses. There were gun battles between nationalists and the RUC, and between nationalists and loyalists. A group of about 30 IRA members was involved in the fighting in Belfast. The RUC deployed Shorland armoured cars mounted with heavy Browning machine guns. The Shorlands twice opened fire on a block of flats in a nationalist district, killing a nine-year-old boy, Patrick Rooney. RUC officers opened fire on rioters in Armagh, Dungannon and Coalisland. *

During the riots, on 13 August, Taoiseach Aiden Maguire made a television address. He condemned the RUC and said that the Irish Government "can no longer stand by and see innocent people injured and perhaps worse". He requested the United Nations deploy a peacekeeping force to Northern Ireland before he "took matters into his own hands"(?)

The Irish Army set up at the border in County Donegal near Derry. Maguire insisted that Irish re-unification would be the only permanent solution. Some interpreted the speech as a threat of military intervention- which it was - After the riots, Maguire ordered the Irish Army to plan for a possible deployment into Northern Ireland. (?)

On 14–15 August, British troops were deployed in Derry and Belfast to restore order, but did not try to enter the Bogside. This brought the riots to an end temporarily. Eight people had been shot dead, more than 750 had been injured (including 133 who suffered gunshot wounds) and more than 400 homes and businesses had been destroyed (83% owned by Catholics). More than 1,800 families were forced to flee their homes, including 1,505 Catholic families and 315 Protestant families. The Irish Army set up refugee camps in the Republic near the border. Many, but not all, nationalists initially welcomed the British Army, as they did not trust the RUC. However, relations soured, purportedly due to the Army's heavy-handedness. *

After the riots, the 'Hunt Committee' was set up to examine the RUC. It published its report on 12 October, recommending that the RUC become an unarmed force and the B Specials be disbanded. That night, loyalists took to the streets of Belfast in protest at the report. During violence in the Shankill, UVF members shot dead RUC officer Victor Arbuckle. He was the first RUC officer to be killed during the Troubles. In October and December 1969, the UVF carried out a number of small bombings in the Socialist Republic of Ireland. *

The perpetrators of the serial bombings were soon caught by the Gardaí and were sent to prison.(?)

1970
The Americans, seeing the Irish Government as a potential future-threat, decides to deploy CIA agents into the Republic and throughout Northern Ireland to supply weapons to those who opposed the Irish Government - mostly Ulster Protestant groups in the North, and disgruntled citizens of the South.(?)

1970 through 1972 saw an explosion of political violence in Northern Ireland, peaking in 1972, when nearly 500 people, just over half of them civilians, lost their lives. *

In Derry City by the end of 1971, 29 barricades were in place to block access to what was known as Free Derry; 16 of them impassable even to the British Army's one-ton armoured vehicles. Many of the nationalist/republican "no-go areas" were controlled by one of the two factions of the Irish Republican Army—the Provisional and Official IRA. There are several reasons why violence escalated in these years.*

Unionists claim the main reason was the formation of the Provisional Irish Republican Army (Provisional IRA), and the Official Irish Republican Army (Official IRA), two groups formed when the IRA split into the Provisional IRA and the Official IRA. While the older IRA had embraced non-violent civil agitation, the new Provisional IRA was determined to wage "armed struggle" against British rule in Northern Ireland. The new IRA was willing to take on the role of "defenders of the Catholic community", rather than seeking working-class ecumenical unity across both communities. *

Nationalists pointed to a number of events in these years to explain the upsurge in violence. One such incident was the Falls Curfew in July 1970, when 3,000 troops imposed a curfew on the nationalist Lower Falls area of Belfast, firing more than 1,500 rounds of ammunition in gun battles with the Official IRA and killing four people. Another was the 1971 introduction of internment without trial (out of over 350 initial detainees, none were Protestants). Moreover, due to poor intelligence, very few of those interned were actually republican activists at the time, but some became increasingly radicalised as a result of their experiences.*


This resulted in numerous gun battles between the British army and the Provisional IRA and the Official IRA. Between 1971 and 1975, 1,981 people were detained; 1,874 were Catholic/republican, while 107 were Protestant/loyalist. There were widespread allegations of abuse and even torture of detainees, and the "five techniques" used by the police and army for interrogation were ruled to be illegal following a British government inquiry. *

In 1972 the Provisional IRA (PIRA) killed approximately 100 soldiers, wounded 500 more and carried out approximately 1,300 bombings, mostly against commercial targets which they considered "the artificial economy". While the Official IRA killed dozens of soldiers and wounded several more in just 1972 mostly through gun attacks according to the CAIN project's Sutton database. The bombing campaign killed many civilians, notably on Bloody Friday on 21 July, when 22 bombs were set off in the centre of Belfast killing seven civilians and two soldiers. The Official IRA, which had never been fully committed to armed action, called off its campaign in May 1972. *

In the Summer of 1976, the Peoples' National Liberation Army in Northern Ireland "declare war" on the United Kingdom. Their first "conflict" was an ambush on a British Army patrol in the fields of South Armagh - it resulted in two of their "soldiers" dead and two British Army soldiers injured and one dead. (?)

The Provisional IRA, seeing the benefits of merging with the Peoples' National Liberation Army decides to hold secret talks about that possibility. (?)

Despite a temporary ceasefire in 1972 and talks with British officials, the Provisionals were determined to continue their campaign until the achievement of a united Ireland. The UK government in London, believing the Northern Ireland administration incapable of containing the security situation, sought to take over the control of law and order there. As this was unacceptable to the Northern Ireland Government, the British government pushed through emergency legislation (the Northern Ireland (Temporary Provisions) Act 1972) which suspended the unionist-controlled Stormont parliament and government, and introduced "direct rule" from London. Direct rule was initially intended as a short-term measure; the medium-term strategy was to restore self-government to Northern Ireland on a basis that was acceptable to both unionists and nationalists. Agreement proved elusive, however, and the Troubles continued throughout the 1970s and 80's within a context of political deadlock. The existence of "no-go areas" in Belfast and Derry was a challenge to the authority of the British government in Northern Ireland, and the British Army demolished the barricades and re-established control over the areas in Operation Motorman on 31 July 1972. *

The talks, of the PIRA and the Peoples' National Liberation Army are successful and they merge to become the "Northern Irish Freedom Army" - they carry out "Operation Tone", which was the assassination of a British Army officer. (?)

Meanwhile, the CIA learn of a Nuclear Launch Site a bit too late - as it's almost finished construction. Relations between the Soviet Union and the USA hit an all time low. (?)

Merlyn Reese, the Northern Irish Secretary of State, had lifted the proscription against the UVF in April 1974. In December, one month after the Birmingham Pub Bombings which killed 21 people, the Northern Irish Freedom Army declared a ceasefire; this would theoretically last throughout most of the following year. The ceasefire notwithstanding, sectarian killings actually escalated in 1975, along with internal feuding between rival paramilitary groups. This made 1975 one of the "bloodiest years of the conflict". *

On 31 July 1975 at Buskhill, outside Newry, the popular Irish cabaret band "The Miami Showband" was returning home to Dublin after a gig in Banbridge when it was ambushed by gunmen from the UVF Mid-Ulster Brigade wearing British Army uniforms at a bogus military roadside checkpoint on the main A1 road. Three of the bandmembers, two Catholics and a Protestant, were shot dead, while two of the UVF men were killed when the bomb they had loaded onto the band's minibus detonated prematurely. The following January, eleven Protestant workers were gunned down in Kingsmill, South Armagh after having been ordered off their bus by an armed Republican gang, which called itself the South Armagh Republican Action Force. One man survived despite being shot 18 times, leaving ten fatalities. These killings were reportedly in retaliation to a loyalist double shooting attack against the Reavey and O'Dowd families the previous night.*

By the late 1970s, war-weariness was visible in both communities. One manifestation of this was the formation of group known as "Peace People", which won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1976. The Peace People organised large demonstrations calling for an end to paramilitary violence. Their campaign lost momentum, however, after they appealed to the nationalist community to provide information on the IRA to security forces, the Peace People being perceived as being more critical of paramilitaries than the security forces.*

The decade ended with a double attack by the against the British. On 27 August 1979, Lord Mountbatten while on holiday in Mullaghmore, County Sligo, was killed by a bomb planted on board his boat. Three other people were also killed: Lady Brabourne, the elderly mother of Mountbatten's son-in-law; and two teenagers, a grandson of Mountbatten and a local boatman. That same day, eighteen British soldiers, mostly members of the Parachute Regiment, were killed by two remote-controlled bombs at Warrenpoint, County Down. *

Successive British Governments, having failed to achieve a political settlement, tried to "normalise" Northern Ireland. Aspects included the removal of internment without trial and the removal of political status for paramilitary prisoners. From 1972 onwards, paramilitaries were tried in juryless Diplock courts to avoid intimidation of jurors. On conviction, they were to be treated as ordinary criminals. Resistance to this policy among republican prisoners led to over 500 of them in the Maze prison initiating the blanket protests and the dirty protest. Their protests would culminate in hunger strikes in 1980 and 1981, aimed at the restoration of political status, as well as other concessions.*

In the 1981 Irish Hunger Strike, ten republican prisoners (all from the Northern Irish Freedom Army) starved themselves to death. The first hunger striker to die, Bobby Sands, was elected to Parliament on an Anti-H-Block ticket, as was his election agent Owen Carron following Sands' death. The hunger strikes proved emotional events for the nationalist community—over 100,000 people attended Sands' funeral mass in West Belfast and thousands attended those of the other hunger strikers. From an Irish republican perspective, the significance of these events was to demonstrate a potential for political and electoral strategy. In the wake of the hunger strikes, Sinn Féin, which had become the Provisional IRA's political wing, began to contest elections for the first time in both Northern Ireland and the Republic. In 1986, Sinn Féin recognised the legitimacy of the Irish Dail, which caused a small group of republicans to break away and form Republican Sinn Féin.*

The Northern Irish Freedom Army (NIFA) "Long War" was boosted by large donations of arms from Libya in the 1980s due to Muammar Gaddafi's anger at Thatcher's government for assisting the Reagan government's bombing of Tripoli, which had allegedly killed one of Gaddafi's children, as well as from monies from pro-Freedom Army partisans in the United States and elsewhere throughout the Irish diaspora.*

Later in the year, the Irish Army would continue to grow by the thousands as the Republic began to accept defectors from the North - creating outrage within the English government. Anglo-Irish relations hit an all time low as the Thatcher government - and Thatcher herself called this "a disgrace" and said that Britain was cautious of Ireland's "growing military and equipment modernization" as they began to also buy from Middle Eastern countries.(?)

By the end of the year, Ireland's Army was now at well over 90,000 members (not counting the Army Reserve). The Irish Army would soon deploy into County Derry - the Taoiseach would soon issue a statement on television claiming the Irish government was tired of "sitting back and watching the British do nothing as the violence in Northern Ireland escalates and the continued mistreatment of the Nationalist and Catholic community" and also threatening that the "UK leaves the island of Ireland permanently or face all-out war". (?)

The British, seeing the increasing threat of the Irish send 10,000 more soldiers to Northern Ireland. Seeing this as a hostile action, the Irish Army starts to move toward the city of Londonderry. The NIFA, operating out of the bogside area of Londonderry mount a raid on the RUC's police headquarters within the city - the raid, which was deemed a success successfully cripples the RUC in Londonderry. The NIFA tried to mount a raid on the British Army barracks but ultimately failed as their carbomb detonated prematurely killing all the raiders. Despite this, the Irish Army was making good progress toward the city of Londonderry - the newly formed Irish Airforce began mounting airstrikes on key British targets such as checkpoints and barracks'. The British, to combat this began attempting to get their own back attempt to mount airstrikes on Irish Army camps just inside the Donegal border - although failing, as all British planes were shot down. The surviving pilots were sent back to the Brits as a gesture of "good will". (?)

As the Irish Army finally makes it to the city of Londonderry via. Muff, Donegal they were welcomed like heroes by the Northern Irish Catholics living in Shanthallow/'Shanty' - The British Army begins placing more soldiers and barricades on the bridges to the other side of Derry - which has a direct motorway to Belfast - and begins fortifying their position in the Walled/Maiden City of Derry. (?)

Image of the Walled City:

Spoiler

The Siege of Derry begins as the British 8th Infantry and Irish infantry clash as the Irish assault the Ebrington barracks (or attempt to) - which is seen as a lose, despite the low casualties on the Irish side and the rather heavy casualties on the British side. The British making their number one priority to destroy the Craigavon bridge. The Irish hold a firm control on the bridge, though as the British attempt to regain control. British soldiers stationed at checkpoints within the city of Derry are stuck behind "enemy lines", and despite some resistance from them are soon captured by the Irish Army. The city of Derry is now under firm control of the Republic. (?)

Edit: Added a bit more.
Edit 2: Added a bit where the Irish Army deploy into Northern Ireland, and a image of "Londonderry"/Derry
Edit 3: Added in the Siege of Derry, or at least the first part.

 

please fucking do this

 

I most likely will, I just need to get things sorted such as how I'm going to pay for server upkeep, and how I'm generally going to go about doing it.

 

Updated the "lore" considerably.

 

Brilliant.
Can't wait to see this in action.

I'd donate but I'm broke.

 

Edit.

 

Its a very long lore. I like it. One song for you as well


For a United England, Scotland, Wales, and ALL OF IRELAND!

 

I'd just like to state I am not pro-IRA, or a Republican Nationalist nor am I a Unionist. I was born in the North, but hold an Irish passport and love both countries.

 

Following your example of these radical roleplays. I might choose to do a Kaiserreich Roleplay. I find that timeline quite enjoyable and full of lore. Maybe taking place in the Second American Civil War.
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Can you imagine the Irish warning the British to 'Shape up' It would be hilarious.

 

Sounds interesting.

 

Sorry for the necro!

Wondering if anyone is interested in seeing this?

 

i kinda wanna buy a server and let you run it just to see how this'd turn out.