Ask a guy who was locked in a Christian Conversion Therapy program for 3 months anything

Were there any gays at the camp and were they beaten?

Not homophobic, I just like it when a kind christian man "cures" someone.

 

Dude, what the fuck? You Americans are crazy, you don't even see this shit in mostly Christian countries. Like seriously, even the Republic of Ireland recently legalized gay marriage and like, the majority of the population is Catholic.

Seriously, what you described is inhumane and should be fucking illegal.

 

When reading the bible, did you find any of it interesting? If so what parts?

 

what the fuck is wrong with you
also interested in why you were there and how you got there

 

Australia is looking pretty good right now

Nevermind (This is on a good day)

 

Have you considered telling people what you saw and try getting the camp shut down. What you went through clearly sounds like some fucked up form of brainwashing

 

Did you notice people with mental illnesses and people who were gay start to doubt themselves and genuinely think that they had demons inside them? Like honestly, it sounds ridiculous that people with mental illnesses were sent to somewhere that they tell you you're just possessed or whatever.

 

And this is exactly why I've turned away from church and shit. These fanatics literally don't read the bible, they read and interpret what THEY want to believe. As well as have this self-righteous hard on for everything they've ever been taught about when it comes to Conservatism and White Jesus.

Literally everything they ever do is completely taken out of context and wrong at every turn, and how do they justify the obviously horrible / illegal acts? IN THE NAME OF JESUS.

Seriously, Fuck that. Read the actual bible, The one written in Hebrew and Greek. You'll notice that all this shit is condemned and even the whole "Gay is wrong" shit is actually just paraphrased in the name of Conservatism and white jesus (White jesus is my way of saying the skewed fucked up version, Gays are actually loved for showing love.)

OT: Besides the "Table" what other methods did they use on you? What exactly happened inside there and did you atleast make any friends to share strength with when you were weak?

 

Was it like Jesus Camp?

 

Can someone explain to me what America's fixation with Christianity is?

Are they all trying to WASP's?

 

is there anything worse than being fed bullshit you know is bullshit by people who think the bullshit is truer than fucking gravity? op, i am legitimately sympathetic for your unfortunate fiasco. but hey, keeps you away from drugs and shit, right?

i have a question: what were some of the more radical things they told you? did they tell you to take an evangelical approach to spreading the gospel of jesus or something?

 

Also Government should not mix with religion. Just because it's a 'sin' (I'm not religious) it shouldn't be illegal.

 

I was born and raised in South Dakota for about half of my life, there isn't much Mormonism out there, really it's just Chrsitian, Catholic, or whatever it is (Sorry, I don't focus on Religion all too much, is Catholic just a sect of Christianity, like Protestant?)

The only people I've known who are Mormon in South Dakota was my great grandmother, otherwise I'd always assumed people were Catholic or whatever. I could be wrong I just never bothered to check. If it is Mormon or whatever cool to know just thought I'd share my two cents

 

Yes, Catholicism is a branch of Christianity.

 

american government is secular. all amendments and laws are based upon human reason rather than biblical guidelines. its a common misconception that the country was founded on christian principles and that all our founding fathers were christian and shit. most of them were either theists (belief in no particular god, just a god) or atheists.

 

Yeah, Protestants "rebelled" against the (at the time) corrupt Catholic church. It was mostly the English.

 

There's a lot of disinformation going around in this thread.

Christianity started in the Roman Empire's holdings in modern Israel in the first century. It quickly spread throughout the Empire, becoming the "Roman Catholic Church" - the state religion - in the 4th century. This was after the First Council of Nicea was called in 325 - this produced the "Nicene Creed", a profession of faith still used by the Catholic Church. The Church of Assyria did not accept this Creed, starting the first sect of Christianity.

By the 11th century, many Christians in the Eastern Roman Empire (now Byzantine Empire) found themselves alienated from the Church, so much so that they had become their own Church via "The Great Schism" - they became the Eastern Orthodox Church, which today includes many self governing ecclesiastes (governing bodies), like "Greek Orthodox" or "Russian Orthodox". The Western Christians remained the Roman Catholic Church.

In the 15th century, Renaissance thinkers in Europe started questioning many of the choices the Roman Catholic Church (or simply Catholic Church) had made. In 1517, Martin Luther (a German friar) formed a protest around a few key points, primarily the sale of indulgences (basically letting sins slide for gifts [Remember that the Church did its own law enforcement in much of Europe]). This protest became Lutheranism, the first in a series of churches (Calvinism, Anglicanism, Anabaptism) protesting the ways of the Catholic Church - a movement referred to as Protestantism (or the Reformation post Trent, explained later). Some churches are even protests of Protestantism.

Protestantism's many branches spread through Northern Europe and Germany, reaching the British isles as well. However, the Anglican Church (the Church of England) was uniquely formed. Basically, a King wanted to remarry and the Pope wouldn't let him - so the King said "Fuck you!" and formed the Church of England, made himself the head of it, and allowed himself to remarry. The Church of England is unique in that regard - and England was still very Catholic at the time of the formation, so the Church maintained much of the Catholic doctrine to appease those Catholics. The English eventually fought a civil war over it if I remember correctly.

The Catholic Church then got the real party started at the Council of Trent - forming the Counter-Reformation to combat Protestantism. This set up the Protestants and Catholics to hate each other for centuries to come. Oh and eventually some of the Eastern Orthodox people went back to the Catholic Church and became the "Eastern Rites".

In the Americas, the colonists brought their religions with them. Catholicism to Spanish, French and Portuguese colonies, Anglicanism to British and assorted small protestants to the other nation's colonies (or for instance the famous "Pilgrims" of Plymouth, with their hype new Protestant-Protestant church [Quakers]). Eventually a bunch of people got together, really mad about taxes and the US was formed. Obviously Anglicans in the US didn't want to answer to the British Monarch, so they just rebranded themselves: Episcopal Church. Mormonism was created by Joseph Smith in the US, it's pretty much a bastardization (I mean that in a non-derogatory way) of all Christian doctrines and is very rarely included in the phrase "Christian".

Today, the Churches are all pretty chill with each other (and there's been a bunch of new movements formed), but historically (I'm not gonna argue Litgurically), the Catholic Church is the "one true church" in that it has an unbroken line of succesion dating back to Paul, the first leader (Pope, in the Catholic Church's eyes) of Christianity.

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