Five Years.

Six years I've been a member of Cloud Sixteen. Six years I've been apart of history in Garry's Mod.
I've ran many communities. I've (partly) ran this very forum and its servers. I've ran many servers and seen pretty much everything there is to see on Cloud Sixteen. I've been in arguments, I've been in controversies, I've seen every manager that ever had the position come and go, and I've been posting throughout it all. Many of you don't like me, and I can understand why; I've developed a pretty negative reputation throughout the years. I've acted like a retard, this is absolutely true. I was very young when I first came here, just barely fifteen years old. I'm now in my twenties. I remember playing OpenAura on my shitty dell laptop which ran Gmod at barely 20FPS, when every server was running rp_city18. This was well back in 2011, when I was thirteen, and I joined C16 a couple of years later once I had some experience under my belt and Clockwork had came out for Gmod 13. I lost my mind with how much Gmod 13 changed the game. I'd lurked around on C16 for about a year before I eventually made my first introduction thread. I was naive to the roleplay community, but I had achieved Legendary by 80 posts and that gave me a big confidence boost that I took for granted. People bullied eachother there, it wasn't a good time.



I developed a tough skin coming onto these forums. The words "autism" and "cancer" get thrown around a lot here, and I was on the brunt end of many a joke. You had to have tough skin talking to people back then, if you weren't very smart it was easy for people to take advantage of you and shun you for their own gain. This happened all over the place. It was a very toxic time.

Yet through all of it, I stayed. I remained active. There were some genuinely great discussions to be had, many a life long friend to be made, and a lot of great roleplay servers that wouldn't have been discovered if not for the fact C16 allowed people to share their own servers on these forums. There were a lot of good times in C16. Despite the fact we had Vonel and Monkah as manager, we stuck through it. We had better times, better managers, better posts, better communities, better forums and sub-forums and we had fun.

I've talked to everyone worth mentioning on these forums, including kurozael himself, and it's not surprising that the forum is "dying". Cloud Sixteen has changed. I rarely see the point of even checking the forums anymore, as it's devolved into a state of stagnation.

I'm writing this in light of the recent post kuro himself made about Playermeta (I'm registered there, I post there, I make no secret about it). While he never referenced Playermeta directly, we all know what it was about, the same way we all know why "a different framework lol" is still a translation for N S, despite the fact kuro has nothing to do with the state of Gmod RP anymore.

I've spent many years here, and I hope to see a drastic return to form some day, but I doubt it's coming any time soon. Many things right with C16 have disappeared, while many things wrong have prevailed.

This post might get deleted before it gets seen. I might even get banned. But I'm not leaving the forum - rest assured, I've always came back to check up on C16 and I don't imagine I'll stop any time soon, but we need something new, we need something to bring the spirit back. We need a change. I can't tell you what that change is, because I don't speak for everyone, but something has to happen. Another community server? More forums? More titles? Another schema?

I hope this forum can re-make itself in the image of what it once was. I'll wait and see.

 

Can I have a tl;dr version

EDIT: I'm a cunt I know

EDIT2: I used tts to listen to it lol

 

ok

 

It's fine, I wouldn't expect you to understand

 

hello i'm gregory, i was a investor, I will be again soon.... lol

 

this isn't macdonalds, Gregory.

 

:regional_indicator_o::regional_indicator_o::regional_indicator_f:

 

I'm glad you finally put it in writing mate, love you <3

 

R.I.P all my alt accounts

I can definitely appreciate the means to move forward, C16 has been around and will continue to be around throughout the RP community, but I don't think we really can enjoy C16 until it comes out, and nobody even knows when that might be. I think your ambitions for the future are completely butting out the people who have supported you and your frameworks - because let's be real, Clockwork would be nothing without all the many people who bought it and made communities from it. You don't owe anybody anything, that much we all can agree on, but when many members of the community you made are clamoring for you to do something and you don't respond in any way other than "if you're leaving then bye", it looks very poor, and everyone has taken note.

If you truly hope that S&Box RP will take off and C16 will once again be the forerunner for its success then you have to continue supporting your current platform to some degree other than waving everyone farewell in an announcement thread. Lightning never strikes twice.

I've supported C16 and your work for years and I've held you to a high standard for a long time. (Not to brown nose you or anything). But S&Box won't be Garry's Mod, and C16 isn't going to be a household name in its current state. We don't know how long it'll be until S&Box comes out, and nor do you, so staking all of your time onto it won't cut it in today, when everyone who has been passionate and put thousands of hours of their lives into something you created is now feeling so disenfranchised that they're looking elsewhere for it.

I can understand that you've lost interest; I haven't put 100 hours into Gmod in the last year I'm willing to bet, but that's largely in part because there hasn't been any reason to; there's no incentive like there was back in 2013-16. C16 is on thin ice, and it won't suddenly skate across it because a new framework will come out.

That's just my two cents. Thank you for being honest in your response, I know this is a huge wall of text and you moved last year (I hope that's all going well, by the way!) and you have things going on, but just take my words on-board as an outsider. (Or, an insider, depending on how you look at it.)