Cider Two What changes should we make and what should we add?

Cider Two Update Discussion
I'm currently trying to get some new things done on Cider Two. I will be adding loads of new stuff and changing a few things already in the gamemode. Here are some of the things I've already go:

- We will remaster the narcotics production and selling system.
- We may remove the drug producer class, as citizens should be able to do this anyway.
- We will be adding some new black market items, and we will make it a bit harder to get hold of items
- Again, I am thinking of removing the class and making citizens find ways by other means of getting naughty goods. Not sure yet tho.
- New jobs are going to be added such as Paramedic, Firefighter, Roadcrew, Bus Driver. I don't want just PERP jobs. I need help thinking of new ones
- We may let people who have jobs act as normal citizens off duty. They will be given equipabled uniform instead of having uniform as model.
- Produce new sweps for jobs. Such as replacing Stunstick with a tazer. We will also have things like defibrillators as medics. The usual needed stuff.
- Replace the Counter-Strike: Source weapons with some cooler ones.
- New cars. We will be completely getting rid of the current vehicle system, I think everyone can agree.
- Personal storage containers will be added to be accessed. This is so they can't get mugged of every single item or get arrested and get all illegals removed.
- Add fuel pumps
- Jail system
- Add bank system, including bank robbery.

Even though the list is a good start, other things would still probably be expected. Some of the things on this list may not appeal to other people. I want to know what you think at the moment. What do you want added? Please respond so it makes it a bit easier to start this for real.

Some of this is already being done and is in progress. So just so everyone knows, things are happening.

 

Damn, I want in on this.

I'll have a go at coding a Tazer SWEP for you.

Pretty standard SWEP coding, let me know if you want help with that.

Just add a vendor that sells fuel, fam.

Good to see we're making waves with this!

 

All of this changed will make the gamemode better straight away, I'm glad it's being worked on I've played C2 a bit and it's actually quite good.

 

I would, but this wouldn't just be a hassle it would be a lazy shortcut. It shouldn't take long just to make them.

 

A clockwork SWEP base would be great. Fun fact, the backsword plugin is an old attempt at a Clockwork SWEP base.

 

That's actually a really good idea. Added

 

Anyone recommend any jobs that should be as a Whitelist Faction or as a simple Class?

 

FBI as a faction maybe, not just regular cops doing FBI job
Army maybe? When Armed responses dies, then the army goes in like in payday 2

 

Yes, I was going to add this. But I was going to then make a new version. But I might as well make it FBI.

I could understand why this would be cool but to be honest, Not sure how many people would join the faction. Average RP server is 6 - 80 slots. If all the jobs get filled then there may not be enough Citizens so it would seem kind of stupid. Although I still think it's a good idea.

 

If FBI it should be HRT because they'll be used more most likely

 

We already have a SWAT class. It is very bare at the moment but loads of stuff will be added to it.

 

Nah, HRT is only used for like, the highest of crises. The FBI has regional SWAT teams for less dangerous threats.
Even then, Cider Two is "City Life", and most US cities (and counties with urban areas) have their own SWAT teams nowadays.

 

it's best to not touch the FBI at all since from what i see a lot of people don't understand the proper functioning of the FBI and personally, as someone who takes deep interest in the FBI and knows about its structure it pains me to see all this wrong information

usually what i do with the FBI on C2 servers is just suggest it, hoping i get accepted, but if it's already a faction that's good as well, ot: the FBI should remain as a law enforcement faction as they are, however they should only make an appearance when it comes to dealing with federal crimes or if the PD needs further investigative assistance, which the FBI icly can provide because they are a federal agency so they have access to a lot of resources

as for the FBI HRT, the FBI has a SWAT team in each 56 field offices prepped to go at any minute to handle high level calls, the HRT, no. HRT are only called in for hostage rescuing (as the name suggests). in my honest opinion, just leave the FBI in an investigative capacity, if whoever leads it wishes to set it up in such a way that it has a SWAT team or HRT then that is their choice

oh and please name the faction "Federal Bureau of Investigation" when people name it "FBI" it sounds so pleb

edit: i recommend getting rid of the trashy job system where you can just click and choose to become a BDM or some shit like that, it should be done ICly, if people want that they can go to Phase Four because to my understanding C2 is suppose to be serious roleplay like HL2RP, yet in HL2RP you don't see a job selection to become a rebel in the tab menu, it's just unnecessary and makes it look like DarkRP which it shouldn't be, none has really cared for C2 and it would be awesome if a developer came along who could change the shit out of it to make it more serious and maybe get people to want and play it.

 

I completely agree. People don't understand what the FBI are. On most RP servers people think it is just higher ranking officers. Of course if people don't understand this, we will just change it to another force or call it Forensics and Crime Scene Investigation or something. Not quite sure.

We will probably still have classes, for things like caterers and shop owners. But the major jobs will be whitelist factions. Obviously the way you apply is up to the community heads whether they choose to let people apply In game or on the forums as an application.

 

honestly i recommend just keeping the FBI faction since i can't really see forensics or CSI being a real faction since it sounds so single purposed, in my opinion CSI & Forensics should be an optional division created by the police chief

as for the FBI, i think due to their undercover nature, on the scoreboard they should be regarded as Civilians to prevent metagame and their names should be the same color as the civilians to again prevent metagame however in the F1 menu it will say "Federal Bureau of Investigation" and they will earn a higher salary because let's face it, FBI agents don't wear uniforms, they blend in with the public and their only real identification should be their badge which by the way, you could create an /identify script which would say something like, "Special Agent John Doe, FBI." just like there is the /apply script in HL2RP.

 

This is a great idea.
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I have never played Cider Two, is it like serious city rp? What classes are there?

 

Sort of. It is kind of like PERP/DarkRP. I feel the general idea this time round was to make it more serious but not much got done.
At the moment the factions are Police and Civilian. You have Armed response for police and then for Civilian, Black Market Dealer, Drug producer, Shop owner etc. We are changing them and adding some different though.